Basically, we are normal people in a normal world.  Here is a nutshell of how the Carnarian Movement and this website came into being.  It is time the Anticarnivorist [like Melanie Joy and her minion, Swayze Foster (Unnatural Vegan)] are exposed for who and what they really are.

We decided that people who eat a lot of different food should have a name of our own choosing, Carnarian.  Have you ever noticed that vegetarians, and especially vegans, label anyone who eats meat in the worst possible way? [-ist as in rapist and carnist]  But for themselves they choose a label in the best possible light. [-arian as in humanitarian and vegetarian]

In order to get money (millions of dollars of donations) Melanie Joy used her degree to name most people in the world “Carnist”. Melanie Joy, PhD, is a Harvard-educated psychologist and uses the knowledge she gained to psychobabble people into sending her money.

Well, we decided it was high time that we had a label that we chose ourselves!  Carnarian is that label.  We wonder how long it will take any vegetarian or vegan to respect normal people well enough to call us Carnarians!

Carnarian and Carnarianism
Normal People in a Normal World!

Like vegetarian is from vegetables and the Latin suffix –arian meaning to promote or advocate.  They promote or advocate not killing (animals) to eat!  (They don’t eat meat)

Vegan is just a contraction or subset of vegetarian.  Like vegetarians, veganism began as a Diet! Vegans don’t eat meat and at a minimum, they also do not use dairy. The original six vegans were members and an officer [Donald Watson] of the Vegetarian Society of the UK. Originally they called themselves “Non-Dairy Vegetarians” and that was The First Definition of Vegan, people who did not eat meat or dairy. Watson started a newsletter he called The Vegan News and in the heading of each original copy it read “Quarterly Magazine of the Non-Dairy Vegetarians.”

We pick No Bones…
With Non-Dairy Vegetarians!
We have No Beef…
With Watson Vegans!

The year following calling themselves vegan, they broke away from the Vegetarian Society.  Today there are hundreds, if not thousands, of conflicting ways to define what is a vegan.

Note: Some vegans and some vegetarians say they are promoting vegetables, but really they are  Anticarnivorist! (Against Normal Humans!) This includes the aforementioned Anticarnivorists Melanie Joy and her minion, Swayze Foster.

An -ist is actually a small subset of the whole population.

If you see that “ist” on the end of a word in a vegan website, it is usually on the end of words that describe really bad people, racist, sexist, and rapist!  You get the point.  Then vegans scammers like “Dr”. Melanie Joy (she is a shrink and NOT a Real Medical Doctor) attack normal people by calling them Mindless carnist with a thoughtless and stupid “invisible” belief system

Even the attorney turned vegan leader Gary Francione says Ms. Joy is wrong!

Now mind you that –ist is not really bad (vegans just associate it to bad!)  It really comes from a Latin suffix related to the word elitist!  In other words, an –ist is actually a small subset of the whole population.  Anticarnivorist works because vegans and vegetarians are just a small “elitist” part of the population.  People who eat meat cannot be called carnist because they are a part of the vast majority of the normal population, hardly an elitist sub-group.

Don’t get us wrong, we respect the position of Gary Francione, he is not the radical pr terrorist you usually hear called vegan.  Nonetheless, to name us ist and themselves arian is really wrong.

If you refuse to call us Carnarian…
Call Is Nonvegetarian!

Melanie Joy, on the other hand, is another story. This Anticarnivorist is mostly interested in getting your money!  Ms. Joy, in order to get more money, has labeled the majority of humans as Carnist.  She invented a word, which by her own definition is invisible (as in has no real meaning?).  Ms. Joy says we, who follow the plan people have followed for thousands of years are stupid!  Why? Because she says so and now you should donate $1,000 per month to her!

One might wonder why she did not use the word Nonvegetarian! Its been around since the nineteenth century and everybody knows it means a human who uses animals. She needed a word to Sell! A new word, a derogatory word, an accusatory word. A word that would get her book sales and donations. This woman, like most vegans today, has only one goal, more money in her bank account! Look at her minion, Unnatural Vegan. It’s all about the cash!

We propose a truce, they named themselves Vegetarian meaning they do not eat meat and we named ourselves (the vast majority) Carnarian because, like it or not, Carnarians promote using animal flesh as a part of a normal life.

So Vegetarians. We will respect you only if you call us Carniarn.  Anyone following the Melody Joy hate group that calls us a Carnist will in return be called an Anticarnivorist

Carnarian and Carnarianism are
Normal People in a Normal World!

The vegan who really most people think of in the Vegan / Animal Rights movement is the well moneyed Ingrid Newkirk of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA).

People Eating Tasty Animals (PeTA)

My first encounter with PeTA was with a girl who did not eat meat.  Now, she was not actually what you would call a Vegan, she just chose to not eat meat or use animal products.  Well, we were in the mall, grabbing a bite to eat and we walked past KFC on the way to the place she had chosen.  In front of KFC were these girls in tiny bikinis with signs that said, PeTA, Vegan and “I’d rather go naked than wear fur!”  (They almost were naked!) Taking a packet of their handouts, we read them while eating our Plant-Only dinner.

It told a story about how PeTA had made an agreement with KFC over something.  But then there was a whole bunch of KFC coupons.  I thought it was funny that the same girl gave me information that it is wrong to kill animals for food, and handed me coupons to encourage me to buy and eat chickens!

Because of PeTA
twice as many chickens were killed!

After we had finished our non-animal meal, I went back to talk about this.  I asked those girls how they felt about handing out coupons to encourage people to basically kill more animals.  They told me PeTA had won a victory with KFC and they wanted to encourage people to try humanly,  something, something.  I talked to the KFC manager about it and he seemed pleased to report that sales were up by over 100% because of the PeTA girls.  Wait!  Because of PeTA twice as many chickens were killed?

That is when I learned how much fun PeTA can be for Carnarians! (Non-Vegetarians)

Some Terms
That only an Anticarnivorist would use!

What is not fun is what some terrorist Vegans call us.  Here is a sample list:

  • Murderers

  • Rapist

  • Carnivores

  • Meat Eaters

  • Carnist

Anyone who uses these terms is actually an Anticarnivorist and not a vegetarian at all (not a vegan either).  The proper term for a normal person who promotes and advocates eating meat as a part of a normal diet is a Carnarian.

Carnarian applies to humans who use or own animals too, regardless of their diet.

We URGE Carnarians to inform vegetarians and vegans about using the proper term Carnarian.  For those who continue to use derogatory terms for the vast majority of the population, they should be properly labeled as an Anticarnivorist!

Carnist is a derogatory term!